From 1981 to 1989, I was assistant producer and co-host of the radio show,
On the Arts, at CJRT-FM in Toronto. With the late Tom Fulton, who was the show's prime host and producer, we did a half-hour interview program where we talked to artists from all fields. In 1994, after I had gone to CBC, I had an idea to collate an interview anthology from some of the more interesting discussions I'd had with guests from that period. Since they all took place during the Eighties, I thought I could edit the collection into an oral history of the decade from some of its most outspoken participants. The book was assembled from interview transcripts and organized thematically. I titled it
Talking Out of Turn: Revisiting the '80s. With financial help from the Canada Council, I shaped the individual pieces into a number of pertinent themes relevant to the decade. By the time I began to contact publishers, though, the industry was starting to change. At one time, editorial controlled marketing. Now the reverse was taking place. Acquisition editors, who once responded to an interesting idea for a book, were soon following marketing divisions concerned with whether the person doing it was hot enough to sell it.
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Tom Fulton, the executive producer of On the Arts |
For a few years, I flogged the proposal to various publishers but many were worried that there were too many people from different backgrounds (i.e.
Margaret Atwood sitting alongside
Oliver Stone). Another publisher curiously chose to reject it because, to them, it appeared to be a book about me promoting my interviews (as if I was trying to be a low-rent Larry King) rather than seeing it as a commentary on the decade through the eyes of the guests. All told, the book soon faded away and I turned to other projects. However, when recently uncovering the original proposal and sample interviews, I felt that maybe some of them could find a new life on
Critics at Large.
In the chapter on memoir in the Eighties,
Mythologizing the Self, which includes interviews with Wallace Shawn describing the highly personal film
My Dinner with Andre,
D.M.Thomas exploring Freud and the Holocaust in his novel,
The White Hotel and
William Diehl discussing how he used pulp fiction to work out his violent impulses, the idea was to illustrate how the decade brought forth a few biographical artists who attempted to link themselves to the collective memory of the audience with the purpose of creating a shared mythology out of their experiences. Perhaps no writer could have done more to enhance that goal than the renowned playwright, scholar and novelist Robertson Davies. Besides bringing his personal fascination with Jungian psychology into his 1970 book
Fifth Business (which would form the basis of
The Deptford Trilogy including the 1972
The Manticore and, in 1975,
World of Wonders), Davies continued to provide psychological inquiry as a means to examining academic life in
The Rebel Angels (1981), the conclusion of which became the starting point for Davies's next work,
What's Bred in the Bone (1985). This book which would then become part of
The Cornish Trilogy, an examination of the life of Francis Cornish, an art restorer with a mercurial past, whose demons become part of a larger mythology. Since myth plays such a huge role in the dramas of Robertson Davies, we began the interview with the question of just how big a part destiny plays in shaping a character.